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motor_head
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Date Posted:12/24/2010 11:01 PMCopy HTML

Hey all, just joined the forum today. Been restoring CT70s for a while, but I picked up a running '81 185S for $150 and I am anxious to do a ground up restore on it. No rust in the tank, runs and shifts good, and doesn't leak or smoke. I feel like I got my moneys worth. Like a lot of others I've seen, it has been stripped of the lighting and instrumentation,but I've already found most of the original lighting and a speedo cluster on Ebay and in salvage yards. Wiring has been tampered with, but I'm hoping I can find help here when I need to reference the original wiring layout. Thanks for hearing me out.

skorpioskorpio #31
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:10/26/2011 2:54 AMCopy HTML


What brand are those wheels? I'm asking because when I was at Buccahans there is some wheel manufacture, "American something or other" from Thailand that they refuse to spoke, true or have anything to do with. They say they are dangerous and will split. Just FYI.
motor_head #32
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:10/31/2011 2:56 PMCopy HTML

Man that makes me nervous Skorp, The rims I bought are stamped "Union Cycle" . Are these the ones Buchanan Spoke won't touch? I almost sent the front rim to Buchanan to let them figure it out, but found my own fix in the meantime.  Oddly enough, half the new Honda spokes have silver nipples, and half are yellow cad plated. Now I've gotta send half the spoke nipples out to get plated to match. Luckily I've got a hook-up for that. Hope I don't have the defective rims.

skorpioskorpio #33
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:10/31/2011 8:32 PMCopy HTML


I honestly don't remember what the exact manufacture name was, but apparently they feel strongly enough about it that there is a sign at the will call window. Maybe give Robert Bucanhan a call, he's always been willing to answer my questions. Just go to their website and get the number.
motor_head #34
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:11/06/2011 9:29 PMCopy HTML

Shes's a Roller!!

Damn I thought I'd never get the spoke/rim issue resolved on this bike, so although she ain't much to look at yet, I finally feel like I'm building a bike and not tripping over spare parts lying around my garage. I've got the paint already, so the tin and sidecovers are gonna get colored in a week or so. By the end of the day I should have a working brake system. The real drag on this part is plating all my bolts. I spent about 4 hours yesterday just zincing and polishing hardware.











MarcP1956 #35
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:11/13/2011 4:29 AMCopy HTML

Very nice work!
MarcP1956 #36
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:12/13/2011 2:46 PMCopy HTML

Patiently waiting for an update - outstanding thread, thank you for sharing! Keep the posts coming.

bazookajoe #37
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:01/02/2012 11:41 PMCopy HTML

awesome work dude!
MarcP1956 #38
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:01/08/2012 2:46 AMCopy HTML

Did you drop out of cyber space? Would appreciate an update, even if you haven't done anything and are waiting for summer.
motor_head #39
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:03/23/2012 4:25 AMCopy HTML

Been a little tied up with kids in college ball for a couple of months. I should be able to get back on this project and make some progress again. I've been missing working on my beloved 185. Ive got the paint mixed for the tank and plastics, and got decals for them as well. I had to have the side cover decals custom made from a sign shop and they did an EXCELLENT job, right down to the fine "warning" print. I had two sets made, so barring a screw up when I apply the first set, I may have a second set for sale cheap. 
XLKirk #40
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:03/25/2012 2:51 PMCopy HTML

Hi Motorhead,
I've been following this thread and thought - wish I was that good! I just started at this hobby (obsession?) about a year ago.  I can definately relate to the decal comment! My first attempt was good - however - the second attempt I got impatient and it resulted in a stretched - out of position decal. Didn't have a spare so had to wait 2 more weeks for another set to arrive. Yeah, I have an extra one now and mounted it on my tool chest as a reminder........

Thanks for the great thread and keep up the good work.
motor_head #41
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:04/16/2012 12:00 AMCopy HTML

I finally had a little time to give the 185 some attention, so I prepped up and painted the tank. I had to use a stud gun on one nasty dent, pulling it and doing some grinding. There were a few others that just needed a little filler. This tank was a good specimen, as it was clean as a whistle on the inside with nary a speck of rust. Unfortunately I neglected to take pics of the bodywork, but I did manage to catch it in primer:




First coat of Base coat:




On the table between base and clear laying out the two tone....




 And finally cleared and ready to cure and add the stripes and logo......






Honda logos in place............................











I got started on the rear fender with a little smoothing and a few coats of primer.........



I'm gonna try to get the fender and side covers done in a couple of days..........
motor_head #42
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:04/20/2012 4:33 PMCopy HTML

And finally with all decals and stripes in place. (I do have to get the warning stickers that go across the top)....



motor_head #43
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:05/06/2012 4:00 PMCopy HTML

I colored up the fender and side covers yesterday.....hoping to get the decals on today.





Here is the one that had the front edge completely gone..........

 
motor_head #44
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:05/08/2012 2:30 AMCopy HTML

And finally...All decaled up and ready for the bike........


MarcP1956 #45
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:05/30/2012 11:55 PMCopy HTML

You certainly do fine work. I do a fair amount of restoration work and your's is excellent.
josephdennis #46
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:06/01/2012 1:40 AMCopy HTML

Nice job. Your bike is looking good. 
motor_head #47
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:09/01/2012 5:31 AMCopy HTML

I got a little more done on this bike in the last few weeks so here's a few pics.......

Starting to look like a bike.....













A visit from Santa in the big Brown Truck...........





I got started on the engine as well.....all piled in a box here.........




All laid out on the work bench............






Before and after on cylinder head cover....I bead blasted it then brass brushed it to give it a little sheen.....

Before...



After....



Head all cleaned up.........



About to lap some valves.....




Blinged up the CDI cover.....I got a little carried away, I might have to "un-bling" it some....

Before...



After...





I miked out everything in this engine during inspection and it had surprisingly little wear, a testament to Honda quality!! I was a little hesitant to lap the Stellite coated valves, but certified Honda mechanics assured me it would be fine. Got the jug cleaned up, blasted the outside and hit it with a ball hone. Gapped a new set of rings, and built the engine up to the top end. Just have to start adding in all the peripherals. Hopefully more pics in my next post.
motor_head #48
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:09/02/2012 5:32 PMCopy HTML

Getting ready for the cylinder.......Please take note of my "high dollar" ring compressor and piston fixture.....






Head, cam, chain  etc.........




Top end all buttoned up..........................




I replaced the engine case screws, bolts, and any other visible hardware to complete the "new" look for detail.
In the next couple of days I'm hoping to get the shift shaft, clutch, oil pump and filter, and all the stator and electrical parts in. 
Im going to bead blast the engine side covers and sprocket cover and paint them with Honda "Cloud Silver". I still buy cloud silver in a rattle can from a local Honda lawnmower shop. It's a little pricey at near $20 a pop, but it is the correct original color. The same formula shows up on everything from their motorcycles, to lawn mowers, to boat motors. That should pretty much get the engine ready to roll.
motor_head #49
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:09/04/2012 3:07 AMCopy HTML

I did a little more trimming out on the XL today........Still gotta put in the clutch, oil pump and filter, decompression linkage and a few more items..............................










I'm waiting on a thrust washer for the shift shaft, new cap nuts to bling up the head a little more, and some oil seals for the right side cover. Maybe in a few days..........
motor_head #50
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:09/14/2012 9:20 PMCopy HTML

Got the engine finished up today......now I have to re-zinc and polish the mounting bolts so I can get this sucker on the bike........

Shift stop and arm in........






Clutch and oil pump in.......




New capnuts on the head............




Side covers and hardware installed.......










And a friendly reminder so I don't forget to put oil in it before I fire it up (Ask me how I know)....


OZ_Sparklz #51
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:09/16/2012 5:38 AMCopy HTML

Hi motor_head ... Re: Post # 50 ...

And a friendly reminder so I don't forget to put oil in it before I fire it up (Ask me how I know)....



... ok I am curious lol ... how do you know? 


motor_head #52
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:09/16/2012 3:16 PMCopy HTML

 Luckily it wasn't me. A friend on another bike forum spent months on an engine as a father and son project. After all the cleanup and rebuild they mounted the engine and proceeded to fire her up. They forgot one thing.......yep, that. Ever since that happened I make it a point to make damn sure I have an obnoxious flag hanging off anything I have the oil out of for any length of time!! If this latest rebuild went up in smoke, they would have to put me in a padded cell....
motor_head #53
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:09/17/2012 1:17 AMCopy HTML

I'm starting to feel like I may make it to the end of this one.......





Still gotta route the cables and wiring, but I'm down to the little stuff now.
motor_head #54
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:10/03/2012 12:37 AMCopy HTML

Only a few things left to do on this build..........













About all that's left is to rework the seat, add the taillight and rear turn signals, send the skid plate and pegs out for powdercoat, and install the petcock and chain. Took a while, but I got the harness routing figured out and all the connections made. Oh yeah......and the exhaust pipe. I'm gonna get the pipe ceramic coated in satin black.
skorpioskorpio #55
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:10/03/2012 4:48 AMCopy HTML


...and add oil
motor_head #56
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:11/18/2012 11:44 PMCopy HTML

I finally got this project finished. Well, almost. Tonight I've got to install the chain guard and a small warning decal on top of the tank. Hopefully in the next few days, i'll get it fired up for the first time and start tuning and dialing it in. Now I've gotta find another project bike...




















skorpioskorpio #57
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:11/19/2012 12:33 AMCopy HTML


Very very impressive. Oh, and don't forget to add oil.
oldnbroken #58
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:11/21/2012 9:19 AMCopy HTML

Nice work, the bike looks great M.H.

Jim
Canadian80 #59
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:01/09/2013 2:45 PMCopy HTML

Awesome work!

I'm currently doing a similar restoration on an 81 XL250S, and I'm having a difficult time finding decals for the job.. Where did you end up finding yours? 

Thanks,
-Ryan
motor_head #60
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Re:185S Resto Project

Date Posted:01/09/2013 4:11 PMCopy HTML

Ryan, the tank Honda emblems I found on Ebay quite some time ago. I bought two sets. I don't remember, but seems like I paid around $15.00 per set for them. I had to have the side cover decals specially made by a sign company. Luckily I had enough of the old decals intact that they could use them to duplicate the art work. I had an extra set of those made as well.

The decals for the '81 models are extinct as far as I can tell. I looked far and wide before having them reproduced.

David W.


Go soothingly on the grease mud ... as there lies the skid demon! ...





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